This Morning viewers bewildered as ‘ill-informed’ Julia Hartley-Brewer dismisses doctor over NHS Covid app
On Thursday’s edition of This Morning, Eamonn Holmes and Ruth Langsford welcomed Julia and Dr Philippa Kaye onto the show to discuss their opposing views on the NHS app, which in the space of a week, informed over half a million people in England that they had been in close contact with someone who had tested positive for coronavirus.
Julia stated that in her opinion, ‘we’re in abject chaos again’, as there have been ‘so many people told to self-isolate who are perfectly healthy’.
The journalist opined that it is ‘absolutely absurd’ that if a person has been double jabbed, has tested negative with a PCR test and takes a lateral flow test every morning that they should have to miss work if they come into contact with someone who’s tested positive.
Eamonn then introduced Dr Philippa, saying that it was time to offer a ‘medical perspective’ on the issue.
‘First thing to say is that no one is underestimating how difficult isolation is, financially, physically, psychologically, no one’s underestimating that. Having Covid also has implications, as well as long Covid,’ Dr Philippa said.
Dr Philippa explained the health concerns of the pandemic (Picture: ITV)
‘If you are pinged by the app, you have an increased risk of being infected yourself, and we know that there is a percentage of patients who will have Covid asymptomatically. That means that you can then transfer that to somebody else putting them at risk of the complications of Covid and long Covid.’
Dr Philippa pointed out that while some people have dubbed the current period of time as a ‘pingdemic’, we are also still in a pandemic, which is why ‘we have to look after ourselves and each other’.
Julia thinks it’s ‘absurd’ that people might have to isolate if they’re double jabbed and tested (Picture: ITV)
Julia voiced her opposition to Dr Philippa’s explanation, stating that ‘at no point did you address any of the actual issues which are the really big issues for people’.
The radio presenter said that in her opinion, people should isolate until they’ve had themselves tested, ‘but the point of someone having a PCR test will establish if they are asymptomatic’.
She questioned ‘if there was such a big risk’, why NHS bosses would say that there’s an exemption for NHS workers.
Dr Philippa calmly explained that when she’s at work, she and other NHS workers disable the app because the app has no way of knowing that they are fully kitted out in their PPE.
Several This Morning viewers expressed their bewilderment over Julia arguing with a doctor over a health issue, with one person tweeting: ‘I know Julia Hartley-Brewer gets invited onto TV shows like #ThisMorning to be controversial, but seriously – she’s a danger to public health with her views. She sees no difference between a nurse wearing full PPE at work and a supermarket worker with a cloth mask at most?’
Another viewer described her as ‘ill-informed’, while someone else said: ‘I love how Dr Philippa is putting Julia in her place! You can’t argue with an expert!’
‘Hmm I wonder who we should listen to, a Doctor with qualifications or Julia with an uneducated opinion? Tough choice,’ one viewer tweeted.
This Morning airs weekdays at 10am on ITV.
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